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>From: "DrK.Loganathan"
>Subject: [agamicpsychology] Re: [agathiyar] agamic ?
>
>
>Dear Mani,
>Thank-you very much. While what you say is true and most dictionaries carry
>that meaning and in SEA countires it has the meaning of religion and
>religious scripture, let me explain the peculiar way in which I use the
>term. I take the root to be Ta.aak-- meaning 'to make" 'unfold" etc. It
>occurs in this sense in Sumerian Su. ag-- etc. So by 'agamam' I mean 'an
>unfoldment' ' a disclosure" etc. I take dreams as a good example of such as
>unfoldment-- we have NO CONTROL over the occurence and and nature of dreams.
>Now I also think that this is the original meaning but confined to sphere of
>religious scriptures and because of which it has come to mean religious
>scriptures. More broadly I mean by agama a TEXT also in an extnded sense.
>Within the Hermeneutic galance WHATEVER we see and analyse are TEXTS, agamas
>-- no brute facts in Hermeneutic Science. Not only dreams but everything
>that reanches understanding is a TEXT an agamam. Even the stone there , the
>tree in front of the house, the letter I read this morning, the conversation
>I just overheard etc etc are TEXTS, agamas. The Psychology that begins with
>TEXTS as that which it studies is Agamic Psychology.
>
>Now I word about Tantra. I think it is a Translation of the tamil word
>'nuul' but mistakenly taken as thread string etc. .The original meaning of
>Nuul in Tamil is perhaps related 'nuval' to say something, or clarify
>something. "nuul' I think originally meant "that which clarifies" .The
>translation of nuul as tantra must be a very late phenomena. Many sanskrit
>words have their origin along these lines that dictionaries don't accomodate.
>
>Loga
>
>
>
>At 09:57 PM 09-09-99 -0700, you wrote:
>>>What does exactly means the word "agamic" ?
>>
>>Agama is a Sanskrit word. You can look up the meanings of a
>>Sanskrit word in the Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon at:
>>
>>http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/tamil/mwd_search.html
>>
>>>>From that lexicon, the appropriate meanings are:
>>
>>a traditional doctrine or precept, collection of such doctrines, sacred work
>>anything handed down and fixed by tradition;
>>Tantra or work inculcating the mystical worship of Siva and Sakti.
>>
>>It also has the following other meanings.
>>
>>reading;
>>acquisition of knowledge, science
>>
>>Mani M. Manivannan
>>Newark, CA, USA.
>>
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