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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:03 AM
Subject: [webmasters] No more Ianesco


Thank you Venkat.. This is my final mail on the subject to this forum.

I do very well know that this august forum is made available to discuss pure
technical issues (I would still like to contiune the discussion on Unicode -
Au long .. not resumed for so long..). I had to butt in since the discussion
was primarily on a not too technical a subject - versification of Newton's
laws and then proceeding to something purely non technical - versification
errors.

While I do not stand in the path of or dare to cross cardboard swords with
anyone attempting to squeeze all available techonology in Aru Seer Kazhi
Nediladi Aasiriya Virutham, my only submission is - please do not term that
as
poetry.

You wrote..

>> Please do not take pride in believing that our classical tradition is
dying, We are beoming one rotten society abandoning all our
evolved sophisticated traditions and borrowing filth from
elsewhere.

What made you to assume that I take pride in believing....?! Where is the
necessity for all these harsh words?

>> Look at the way the japanese (take) pride in the sumo
wrestling and haiku (you know how technologically advanced
they are) or the scottish (take) pride in their highland games
..silampaattam,
kOllaattam, bommalaattam, divya naama sangeethanam, oppaari, villup
pattu....?
Do you feel that they are inferior to kung-fu, fling, japanese puppet
theatre,

or italian opera. Can we take pride in calling these dead?

Where do all these map into? I am confining my discussions strictly to the
realms of poetry. ( As an author from the backward Sivaganga, I do take
pride
in all the folk art forms ..)



>> Nobody cajoles you to learn einstein to appreciate cankam. But,
how can you preclude einstein as a theme for marabhu kavithai.
For a practising scientist or an enthusiast in science, the beauty
he sees in science is a potential theme for versitification.

Dear Venkat, you are jumping the gun without reading my statement in full.


>> So you mean to say that new themes are not given to traditional poetry,
just look back at our classical masters how varied and different their
themes are and how the social and cultural changes (and political)
constantly changed their themes. what is the yardstick to admit
(or refuse) entry for a subject to poetry.

Again going off in a tangent .. I was referring to Sangam literature. I
firmly
believe that no one can add anything to it Now - till fourth dimension
becomes
a exercisable option.


>It is needless to lament the death of Marabu Kavithai as a vibrant
>modern Tamil poetry has since evolved and has taken its place,
>So one can commit patricide when his new son is born !!! Great logic.
>Go take pride and dance on the imaginary corpse of the cherished and
>beloved tradition.

Harsh words again.. I never knew that lamenting a death would make a
person
liable to be booked for culpable homicide of the departed individual!

> >You know it has been constantly observed by even these greats (like one
of my favourites basuvaiyah) that tamil puthukkavithai is already dying!!!

If Sundara Ramasami says it is dead, it should be so. Amen.

anbudan
Era.Murugan (Achwin)



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