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Subject: Example: Reaping The Benefits of Tamildom Networked Cooperative
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:48:05 +1100
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From: "Bala Pillai"
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Anbulla Thamil Innaiyargale,
Here is an exchange I had with Omer, Erumbu and enthusiastic Business
Development Manager at Nanda Solutions, Chennai.
This exchange enabled him to understand what he and his company can gain
from the Tamildom networked cooperative.
It will do ditto for you and your company too. I would recommend that you
make use of this power, before your competition does.
If you are short of time, you can start from the "=====" marker below - it
skips the background.
To join the group that is founding Tamildom click on
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erumbugal
anbudan../bala
bala@...
Founder/Producer, Thamil Innaiyam (since 1995)
http://www.tamil.net
bala2pillai (04:08:01 PM): vaanga vaanga :-)
afazalhameed (04:13:22 PM): Nanri
bala2pillai (04:08:31 PM): neenga UAE-la irukeengalaa, Tamilgathilia?
afazalhameed (04:14:33 PM): Singara Chennai
afazalhameed (04:15:08 PM): I am sulthan's Brother
bala2pillai (04:13:22 PM): neenga sultanudaiya annan-a thambi-yaa?
afazalhameed (04:18:35 PM): Thambi
afazalhameed (04:19:05 PM): Sulthan Ungala paththi niraya soluvar
bala2pillai (04:14:12 PM): sari..neenga Sultan-kooda vanigam seygireergalaa?
bala2pillai (04:14:21 PM): :-)
bala2pillai (04:14:44 PM): Sultan kooda saenthu vanigam seygireergalaa?
afazalhameed (04:20:07 PM): Illai, I am Business Development Manager in a
SOftware Company
bala2pillai (04:16:02 PM): ok. sari...intha software co peyar? enna
software -aalamana vilakam kudungal paarpoam.
bala2pillai (04:16:37 PM): athaavathu thelivaana vilakam..software vaera
vaera vitham.
bala2pillai (04:17:03 PM): :-)
afazalhameed (04:22:06 PM): Company Name: Nanda Solutions Private Limited
afazalhameed (04:22:16 PM): www.thenandainfortek.com
bala2pillai (04:17:29 PM): ok
bala2pillai (04:17:48 PM): nallathu - poai paakuraen.
afazalhameed (04:22:49 PM): We do Supply Chain Management and ERP Solutions
for Small and Medium Scale enterprises
afazalhameed (04:23:01 PM): All our packages are in VB and SQL Server
bala2pillai (04:18:09 PM): ok - mostly MS platform?
bala2pillai (04:18:18 PM): I see - yup I thought so :-)
afazalhameed (04:23:14 PM): No site doesnt contain anything
bala2pillai (04:18:43 PM): oh - then a recommendation -- don''t send people
there :-)
bala2pillai (04:18:58 PM): take it that people's time is very precious :-)
afazalhameed (04:23:53 PM): We alsohave standard packages for Hotel, School,
Colleges, Dairy, Small Hospitals
bala2pillai (04:19:50 PM): I see...90% local market 10% export?
afazalhameed (04:24:45 PM): But mostly we are concentrating in SCM and ERP
solutions
afazalhameed (04:25:00 PM): Our main target is Local market
bala2pillai (04:20:11 PM): ok.
bala2pillai (04:20:25 PM): how many full-timers in the co?
afazalhameed (04:25:20 PM): Right Now we are much worried about Exports
afazalhameed (04:25:42 PM): Moreover we have a Representative in
S( Pittsburgh)
afazalhameed (04:25:53 PM): 40 prople are working
afazalhameed (04:25:59 PM): here in chennai
afazalhameed (04:26:13 PM): We plan to start a marketting office in US by
JAN
bala2pillai (04:21:20 PM): ok. and how long has it been in biz?
afazalhameed (04:26:49 PM): 2 and half years
bala2pillai (04:22:16 PM): owned by one person or partnership?
afazalhameed (04:27:15 PM): We spent nearly two years in developing
afazalhameed (04:27:32 PM): Its is a closely family held private limited
afazalhameed (04:27:42 PM): Our MD sits here, his son is in US
bala2pillai (04:23:12 PM): and the MD has an IT background?
afazalhameed (04:28:33 PM): Very recently we entered the market as far as
our experience we have a good response
afazalhameed (04:28:44 PM): No he is basically a businessman
afazalhameed (04:29:05 PM): Here we are about 3 guys who guide him
afazalhameed (04:29:18 PM): He gets things clarified by his Son
afazalhameed (04:29:21 PM): in US
bala2pillai (04:24:33 PM): ok..so who determines sales/marketing
strategy..who brings in most of the business?
afazalhameed (04:30:19 PM): he is a prominent person among locals bigwigs
afazalhameed (04:30:44 PM): So he is able to influence most of the
Educational groups, Business house
bala2pillai (04:26:00 PM): in top 100 prominent people in TN?
afazalhameed (04:31:09 PM): So we will be able to enter into the company,
convince them with the software
afazalhameed (04:31:30 PM): Not so big still able to do it to an extent
bala2pillai (04:27:27 PM): I see - does he do a lot of work himself or is he
a good delegator?
bala2pillai (04:27:44 PM): does he come in nearly everyday?
afazalhameed (04:32:50 PM): We have tie-up with a Bangalore company called
AMITYINDIA ( www.Amityindia.com) for technical support and marketting
afazalhameed (04:33:27 PM): He sits here from Morning till evening
afazalhameed (04:33:41 PM): What is delegator?
bala2pillai (04:30:17 PM): delegator = smart at passing work to appropriate
people and making sure the people do it; compared to some leaders/managers
who do too much themselves.
bala2pillai (04:31:17 PM): (too much details themselves)
bala2pillai (04:31:22 PM): brb.
afazalhameed (04:36:57 PM): Yes he is good at it
afazalhameed (04:37:11 PM): He is not well versed in IT or OCmputers
bala2pillai (04:35:17 PM): I see.
bala2pillai (04:35:30 PM): what biz was he doing before?
afazalhameed (04:42:01 PM): One sec bala I'll be back in Two mins
afazalhameed (04:42:05 PM): SOrry
bala2pillai (04:37:20 PM): ok
afazalhameed (04:42:39 PM): He ws doing Real Estate in Chennai
bala2pillai (04:37:58 PM): I see.
bala2pillai (04:38:15 PM): what's his name?
afazalhameed (04:43:13 PM): He is still doing it
afazalhameed (04:43:19 PM): Perumalsamy
bala2pillai (04:38:47 PM): is he friendly mostly and firm when needed?
afazalhameed (04:44:34 PM): Yes, He is mostly friendly, even sometime when
he requires to be firm also somtimes he is soft
bala2pillai (04:39:52 PM): I see..that's good.
afazalhameed (04:45:23 PM): How is the market in Australia
bala2pillai (04:40:34 PM): that's more good than bad, I mean :-)
bala2pillai (04:41:08 PM): the market in Australia is so-so I hear - I am
not much into it now.
afazalhameed (04:46:32 PM): You are in Software line?
bala2pillai (04:41:41 PM): for the last 10 mths - I sold my ISP and I am
into global strategy and innovation.
bala2pillai (04:41:51 PM): No - I am a producer.
bala2pillai (04:41:56 PM): and an inventor.
afazalhameed (04:47:03 PM): What do you actually do?
bala2pillai (04:42:36 PM): did sultan mention Thamil Innaiyam to you?
bala2pillai (04:42:46 PM): and Thamil Innaiya Erumbugal?
afazalhameed (04:47:47 PM): Nothing much about it
afazalhameed (04:47:55 PM): I am in Erumbugal
afazalhameed (04:48:09 PM): my name is OMer Sheriff
bala2pillai (04:43:17 PM): ok do you know what Erumbugal is about?
bala2pillai (04:43:34 PM): oh I saw that email -- very confusing it was.
afazalhameed (04:48:32 PM): Global Co-operation movement
bala2pillai (04:43:51 PM): it is a for-profit cooperative.
bala2pillai (04:44:18 PM): have u spoken to shanaaz about what Erumbugal is?
bala2pillai (04:48:34 PM): ok..let me explain...
bala2pillai (04:48:37 PM): I am an inventor.
afazalhameed (04:53:41 PM): ok
bala2pillai (04:48:51 PM): I do very very very new things - things that have
never been done before.
afazalhameed (04:53:53 PM): Yes
bala2pillai (04:49:09 PM): so a very hard thing with this, is it is hard to
explain them to many people unless their mind is open.
afazalhameed (04:54:10 PM): m..
bala2pillai (04:49:32 PM): Your sister shanaaz is a good case - she has a
very open mind - she understands a lot.
bala2pillai (04:49:46 PM): So do discuss with her :-)
bala2pillai (04:50:01 PM): Now, let me explain what I do in more detail..
bala2pillai (04:50:38 PM): Thamil Innaiya Erumbugal can be a great
opportunity for your company.
bala2pillai (04:50:55 PM): if your company looks at this as a long-term
project.
bala2pillai (04:51:47 PM): you will find that if you do something that only
you can do, and you do it well, you can make a lot of money - like why Bill
Gates makes a lot of money - he can charge a very high margin.
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bala2pillai (04:51:59 PM): ok..now let me go on with Erumbugal.
bala2pillai (04:52:47 PM): Question for you....would you agree that 90% of
your success is a result of a) how you use your brains + b) your
contacts/relationships?
afazalhameed (05:11:00 PM): Yes defenitely
afazalhameed (05:11:07 PM): I agree with you
bala2pillai (05:11:24 PM): ok..good.
bala2pillai (05:11:49 PM): now imagine if we had 1 million wired Tamils...
afazalhameed (05:17:06 PM): Yes
bala2pillai (05:12:24 PM): in a database and they gave details of their
strengths and weaknesses..
bala2pillai (05:12:40 PM): and they did a psychological profile test..
afazalhameed (05:17:35 PM): m...
bala2pillai (05:12:54 PM): (the kind of test many now have to do before they
join big companies)
afazalhameed (05:17:51 PM): m...
bala2pillai (05:13:22 PM): to assess their inclinations on risk-taking,
initiative, communication skills, responsiveness etc etc.
afazalhameed (05:18:40 PM): mm..
bala2pillai (05:14:14 PM): so that whenever you wanted to access a person
with a aptitude/skills profile...you could immediately do that,
bala2pillai (05:14:34 PM): and you could contact them easily - they are on
YIM including many on YIM voice..
bala2pillai (05:14:40 PM): and soon on webcam.
afazalhameed (05:20:03 PM): I can understand
bala2pillai (05:15:30 PM): also let us say there are people who get them to
socialise regularly by organising social/training meetings between people
with like interests - to further business or social aims.
bala2pillai (05:15:59 PM): And we had them to share their knowledge..
afazalhameed (05:21:09 PM): Yes..
bala2pillai (05:16:31 PM): (this will take some time, but it can be
done..once we explain that if they want others to give knowledge to them,
they have to give)
bala2pillai (05:16:50 PM): so we have a number of role models who start the
way..
afazalhameed (05:21:56 PM): m..
bala2pillai (05:17:03 PM): (and we already have done this in the last 6
years)
afazalhameed (05:22:22 PM): m..
bala2pillai (05:17:40 PM): that is why despite no money from government, or
society or universities, we have a strong growing Thamil Innaiyam.
bala2pillai (05:17:56 PM): ok..so what we have is a situation where...
bala2pillai (05:18:08 PM): a) people have access to a **global brain**
afazalhameed (05:23:06 PM): m..
bala2pillai (05:18:50 PM): b) they have access to a near limitless pool of
contacts that they can do work for or have work for them, do biz etc etc.
bala2pillai (05:18:59 PM): Questions?
bala2pillai (05:19:04 PM): or doubts?
afazalhameed (05:24:48 PM): Fine, Let me first digest all these into my mind
before i ak u any questions
bala2pillai (05:19:58 PM): ok.
bala2pillai (05:20:05 PM): now let me throw one more thing..
bala2pillai (05:20:15 PM): and that is how do we finance this?
bala2pillai (05:20:26 PM): who pays for it?
bala2pillai (05:20:30 PM): ok..
bala2pillai (05:20:38 PM): this is how we do it...
afazalhameed (05:26:01 PM): m..
bala2pillai (05:21:17 PM): We announce that we want members and the above
are the benefits...
bala2pillai (05:21:22 PM): and over and above that...
bala2pillai (05:21:37 PM): we are giving US$2000 to each member on one
condition...
afazalhameed (05:27:07 PM): mmmm......
bala2pillai (05:22:19 PM): The condition is that they must use the US$2000
to buy from an A-Z list of services from other members or from the
cooperative.
bala2pillai (05:22:45 PM): and they must provide US$2000 of whatever service
they are good at to the cooperative.
bala2pillai (05:22:55 PM): and they can buy before they provide.
afazalhameed (05:27:51 PM): Gr8!!
bala2pillai (05:23:08 PM): and the coop gets 10%.
bala2pillai (05:23:35 PM): example...if they buy something for US$200..they
pay 220...200 to the seller and 20 to the coop.
bala2pillai (05:23:56 PM): if they sell something for 200..they get 180 and
20 goes to the coop.
bala2pillai (05:24:06 PM): Questions?
bala2pillai (05:24:41 PM): and if they think the commission is too much,
they can increase their price accordingly.
afazalhameed (05:29:49 PM): Concept is great,I belive wherever u have a
trustfull cooperation and society success is always there
bala2pillai (05:25:02 PM): Yes.
afazalhameed (05:30:06 PM): Let me first digest all these into my mind
before i ask u any questions
bala2pillai (05:25:23 PM): What we are doing is creating like a America out
of wired Tamils.
bala2pillai (05:25:38 PM): you see..America started off as a poor country..
bala2pillai (05:25:48 PM): 200 years ago TN was rich...
afazalhameed (05:30:47 PM): mm
bala2pillai (05:25:54 PM): America was poor.
afazalhameed (05:30:53 PM): Oh!
afazalhameed (05:31:00 PM): ho!
bala2pillai (05:26:10 PM): but America put a solid foundation for trust
building.
bala2pillai (05:26:37 PM): while TN was continuing to go downhill on trust
and justice etc.
bala2pillai (05:26:51 PM): so a lot of time is wasted on trying to do
transactions.
bala2pillai (05:27:00 PM): I mean we are way below the ants..
bala2pillai (05:27:14 PM): look at the ants..do you see them having problems
for food and shelter?
bala2pillai (05:27:36 PM): and it is not about working hard...
bala2pillai (05:27:42 PM): it is about working smart!!
bala2pillai (05:28:08 PM): to use our brains for what each of us most good
at and let somebody else do what we are second most good at.
bala2pillai (05:28:17 PM): so they have money to buy what we are good at.
afazalhameed (05:34:20 PM): YEs thats perfect example
bala2pillai (05:30:08 PM): For a long while we couldn't do it...because the
world was in "industrial revolution" mode where tangibles (hard goods) were
valuable..
bala2pillai (05:30:17 PM): now the value is in usable brains.
afazalhameed (05:35:21 PM): Moreover this is a platform where smartness
works more easier
afazalhameed (05:35:26 PM): yes
bala2pillai (05:30:37 PM): and the world is still short of people who are
really good at what they do :-)
bala2pillai (05:31:13 PM): who are 100% reliable and responsive.
bala2pillai (05:31:52 PM): and this is not just for Internet connected
people.
bala2pillai (05:32:04 PM): remember the Internet connected people will be at
the top of the chain.
afazalhameed (05:37:15 PM): m..
bala2pillai (05:32:33 PM): they in turn will be employing/providing work for
others who are not connected, not so good in communication, factory workers
etc.
bala2pillai (05:33:01 PM): so the wired people are like the hubs.
bala2pillai (05:33:13 PM): get me? :-)
afazalhameed (05:38:32 PM): Some what
bala2pillai (05:33:59 PM): ok..tell you what..print this out and discuss
this with shahnaaz and sultan...
afazalhameed (05:39:03 PM): But still I have an impression that the
tangible world will rule over the Virtual world
bala2pillai (05:34:11 PM): and write down all the questions you have.
bala2pillai (05:34:31 PM): what is the tangible world, what is the virtual
world?
bala2pillai (05:34:47 PM): right now aren't you and I part of both worlds?
afazalhameed (05:40:00 PM): Yes defenitely
bala2pillai (05:35:07 PM): do you agree that *super organisers* will rule
others?
bala2pillai (05:35:20 PM): eg...Osama and the Al Qaeda network...
bala2pillai (05:35:36 PM): they are a small group, but they are very good at
2 things...
bala2pillai (05:35:40 PM): a) thunichal
bala2pillai (05:35:45 PM): b) organisation
afazalhameed (05:40:49 PM): Yes only to an extent finally the actual people
will stay longer
bala2pillai (05:36:02 PM): so they can bring the largest country in the
world to its knees.
bala2pillai (05:36:22 PM): right or wrong is a different matter.
afazalhameed (05:41:22 PM): That is not reaching the destination
bala2pillai (05:36:51 PM): Think of this as an enabling tool for the real
world.
bala2pillai (05:37:10 PM): Just as roads, telephones and aeroplanes
were/are.
bala2pillai (05:37:30 PM): this distinction between real and virtual worlds
is very very artificial.
bala2pillai (05:37:33 PM): and does not make sense.
bala2pillai (05:37:40 PM): I am a real human being.
bala2pillai (05:37:49 PM): talking to another real human being called Omar.
bala2pillai (05:38:01 PM): what is so "virtual" about it?
afazalhameed (05:42:59 PM): YEs i accept that very much
afazalhameed (05:43:12 PM): I am always for it
bala2pillai (05:38:24 PM): Sultan is doing a lot for Erumbugal.
bala2pillai (05:38:28 PM): he is a real human being.
bala2pillai (05:38:33 PM): I am a real human being.
bala2pillai (05:38:45 PM): it just happens that we have not seen each other
face to face.
bala2pillai (05:39:03 PM): but we know each other lots more than many people
I have seen face to face or he has seen face to face.
bala2pillai (05:39:07 PM): we trust each other.
afazalhameed (05:44:16 PM): Yes
afazalhameed (05:44:21 PM): Defenitely
bala2pillai (05:39:28 PM): so we work with each other like how we used to
work together in villages.
bala2pillai (05:39:49 PM): and especially these days among Tamils, we do not
trust many face-to-face situations.
afazalhameed (05:44:50 PM): Face is again another monitor, only mind has to
accept
bala2pillai (05:40:00 PM): YES!!!!!!!!!
bala2pillai (05:40:07 PM): Face is another mask!
afazalhameed (05:45:09 PM): You are right
bala2pillai (05:40:19 PM): and because we don't have a mask here..
afazalhameed (05:45:17 PM): :)
bala2pillai (05:40:35 PM): here we have to convince each other with our
minds and words!!
afazalhameed (05:45:41 PM): Yes i can talk to you from my heart
bala2pillai (05:40:51 PM): It is in many ways more REAL than the real world!
bala2pillai (05:40:52 PM): :-)
bala2pillai (05:40:57 PM): so here you are...
bala2pillai (05:41:13 PM): virtual is real and real is virtual!!!
bala2pillai (05:41:17 PM): think about it!
afazalhameed (05:46:14 PM): PERFECT
bala2pillai (05:41:19 PM): :-)
bala2pillai (05:41:20 PM): brb.
afazalhameed (05:46:44 PM): My Friends in Net are more closer than the
friends arond me
afazalhameed (05:46:52 PM): brb??
afazalhameed (05:49:30 PM): Bala?
bala2pillai (05:49:01 PM): am back
bala2pillai (05:49:09 PM): brb = be right back.
bala2pillai (05:49:15 PM): there you are.
afazalhameed (05:54:31 PM): Ok
bala2pillai (05:49:41 PM): this networked cooperative will create lots and
lots of jobs..
bala2pillai (05:49:52 PM): it will lift Tamilness and Tamil
afazalhameed (05:54:58 PM): OK
bala2pillai (05:50:15 PM): We coined the word Innaiyam (Tamil for Internet)
bala2pillai (05:50:25 PM): it comes from Innaikkum + Maiyam
bala2pillai (05:51:04 PM): Tamils even though they may not like Tamil, they
don't hate Tamil.
afazalhameed (05:56:04 PM): is It your word that is used by all ?
bala2pillai (05:51:17 PM): so we use Tamilness to bring them together.
bala2pillai (05:51:31 PM): It is used by all...and there is a big lesson
there too!!
bala2pillai (05:51:47 PM): If you want to reduce your marketing/PR costs,
give it away!!
bala2pillai (05:51:56 PM): let everybody use it...:-)
bala2pillai (05:52:40 PM): just like the word "xerox"
bala2pillai (05:52:47 PM): many people use it to mean copy..
bala2pillai (05:52:58 PM): even though Xerox is the name of the inventor.
bala2pillai (05:53:15 PM): and there are many others who make photocopy
machines.
bala2pillai (05:53:40 PM): so..yes..it is our word that is used by all.
afazalhameed (05:58:36 PM): Yes :)
bala2pillai (05:53:49 PM): free advertising :-)
bala2pillai (05:54:05 PM): Our slogan can be "the inventors of Innaiyam"
afazalhameed (05:59:29 PM): Make it in Tamil BAla
bala2pillai (05:54:46 PM): so join me Omar!!!
bala2pillai (05:55:10 PM): join me in explaining and dragging doubts and
questions out of people on Thamil Innaiya Erumbugal.
bala2pillai (05:55:24 PM): Tamils are slow at asking questions...so drag it
out..
bala2pillai (05:55:48 PM): this is not an issue of is blue colour better
than green colour!!
bala2pillai (05:55:53 PM): It is logic.
bala2pillai (05:55:58 PM): It is analysis!
bala2pillai (05:56:18 PM): after correct analysis, there is a right answer
and a wrong answer!!
bala2pillai (05:56:41 PM): so if people say, "no I don't think it will
work" -- ask them why?
bala2pillai (05:56:55 PM): is it possible that they don't have a track
record in inventing new things?
bala2pillai (05:57:05 PM): that's why they are against new things?
afazalhameed (06:02:16 PM): mm
bala2pillai (05:57:25 PM): is it possible that they have to learn analysis?
bala2pillai (05:57:42 PM): and if they think it won't work, they must list
out the reasons why.
bala2pillai (05:57:48 PM): Then we can address them one by one.
bala2pillai (05:58:14 PM): ok..do you think you can explain above to
Perumalsamy?
afazalhameed (06:03:13 PM): m.
bala2pillai (05:58:28 PM): and get him on board as a co-promoter with me?
bala2pillai (05:58:59 PM): we need some top doers in our team.
bala2pillai (05:59:31 PM): and in exchange for shares in the cooperative,
your company can do some development work.
bala2pillai (05:59:58 PM): and it will get promotion amongst Tamils - many
who make decisions to buy software for their companies.
bala2pillai (06:00:04 PM): all over the world.
afazalhameed (06:05:02 PM): Why do you need Perumalsamy
bala2pillai (06:00:24 PM): I need doers.
bala2pillai (06:00:38 PM): I need doers to move the project faster rather
than slower.
bala2pillai (06:01:01 PM): we have Gandhi Kannadasan.
bala2pillai (06:01:09 PM): and soon I am confident we will have Abdul
Kallam.
bala2pillai (06:01:30 PM): Kallam is a good friend of Gandhi Kannadhasan.
afazalhameed (06:06:50 PM): Ok, I'll get your job done We can undertake
some of the Development work for Erumbugal
bala2pillai (06:02:01 PM): Perumalsamy, since he is friendly, will make time
to understand this, and see the benefits to him in the short and long term.
afazalhameed (06:07:26 PM): When will u be coming to India
bala2pillai (06:02:31 PM): and that will in turn make it easier for many who
know/respect Perumalsamy to join this networked cooperative.
bala2pillai (06:02:39 PM): in 3 weeks time
bala2pillai (06:02:52 PM): but explain first - coz it will take more than
one time.
bala2pillai (06:03:00 PM): And my Tamil is not good :-)
bala2pillai (06:03:22 PM): I didn't get to go to Tamil school coz I was born
and raised in Malaysia.
bala2pillai (06:03:38 PM): and when growing up I didn't think it was
important.
afazalhameed (06:08:34 PM): So we can make companies member for this
movement more than individuals
bala2pillai (06:03:43 PM): Yes!
bala2pillai (06:03:47 PM): definitely
afazalhameed (06:08:53 PM): ok, thats not a problem
bala2pillai (06:04:06 PM): big companies, small companies, individuals.
bala2pillai (06:04:21 PM): but remember at the end of the day, the movement
will be moved by PEOPLE.
bala2pillai (06:04:27 PM): by human beings and human minds :-)
bala2pillai (06:04:35 PM): who have open minds
bala2pillai (06:05:03 PM): who are ready to reason with the best Tamil
minds in the world :-)
bala2pillai (06:05:12 PM): If I am wrong, point it out.
bala2pillai (06:05:22 PM): If there is a better idea, let me know...
afazalhameed (06:10:20 PM): Yes surely!!, only those kinds can survive in
this society(Erumbugal)
bala2pillai (06:05:35 PM): If there is somebody better at doing it, let me
know - I will join them!!
afazalhameed (06:10:34 PM): Sure
bala2pillai (06:05:55 PM): :-)
afazalhameed (06:11:08 PM): I ahve some frienda who have a similar mind set
afazalhameed (06:11:18 PM): They will join this group soon
bala2pillai (06:06:29 PM): Good...you see shanaaz is a hopeful person..
bala2pillai (06:06:35 PM): that is what we need.
afazalhameed (06:11:44 PM): They are intelligent, and some what similar
thimnking guys
bala2pillai (06:07:19 PM): and using our mind to do win-win things.
bala2pillai (06:07:31 PM): things that make us win and have other people win
too.
afazalhameed (06:13:05 PM): Sure Bala, i shall discuss with both of them
about all these, AS I am a business development Mngr, This will be usefull
for me right away, i am also pulling many people into this
bala2pillai (06:08:12 PM): ok..joining is good..even better explain to them.
bala2pillai (06:08:20 PM): Great.
bala2pillai (06:08:23 PM): Tell him this...
bala2pillai (06:08:38 PM): with this you have "offices" around the world.
bala2pillai (06:08:40 PM): like reps.
afazalhameed (06:13:37 PM): I think This text will help me explain others
what exactly we are upto
bala2pillai (06:08:44 PM): what is a rep?
bala2pillai (06:09:04 PM): if somebody in Sydney is smart, has a track
record, is communicating with you regularly...
afazalhameed (06:14:12 PM): Representative ( My MD's Son is in pittsburgh
USA)
bala2pillai (06:09:32 PM): isn't that a better "rep" than if you open an
office and hire someone who does not do it as well?
bala2pillai (06:09:55 PM): Yes..sure I agree that some reps like your boss's
son would be solid.
afazalhameed (06:15:05 PM): Yes defenitely
bala2pillai (06:10:11 PM): By this, what I mean is soon..you will have
"reps" all over.
bala2pillai (06:10:24 PM): and pay them with T$
afazalhameed (06:15:26 PM): Yes
bala2pillai (06:10:35 PM): T$ is the currency of our cooperative.
bala2pillai (06:10:46 PM): 1 T$ = 1 US$
afazalhameed (06:15:51 PM): I can understand , I know tamil Dollar
bala2pillai (06:11:00 PM): ok :-)
bala2pillai (06:14:07 PM): ok..print this out and discuss it and give me
questions..your questions will improve our concept even more.
afazalhameed (06:19:15 PM): Ok Bala can I leave now, It was great talking
with you, I shall talk to my MD about this, I'll make sure he comes in with
you
bala2pillai (06:14:43 PM): yes- thanks Omar...talk to your MD and keep me
posted.
bala2pillai (06:14:50 PM): take care and bye :-)
afazalhameed (06:20:04 PM): Sure bala
afazalhameed (06:20:08 PM): Bye
bala2pillai (06:15:28 PM): :-)
afazalhameed (06:20:44 PM): Nanri Bala
