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Subject: Foretelling baby's sex
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கவிஞர் விஜய் அவர்களுக்கு,
வணக்கம்.
நீங்கள் அனுப்பிய அஞ்சலில் பேரா. சாக்கோ சேரநாட்டு
ஆசாரிமார் குழந்தை ஆணா, பெண்ணா என்பதை
அறிவிக்கும் தந்திரத்தைப் பற்றிப் பேசுகிறார்.
நம் தமிழ் மடல் ஒன்றில், செயங்கொண்டார்
பல தொழில்களைப் பற்றி நகைச்சுவையாகச்
சொல்கிறார். இiவ்வாறெல்லாம் பலதொழிலால் மனிதன் ஓயாது அலைந்து
பணம்பண்ணல் மாதராரை அடைந்து அவர்கள்வழிப்படற்கே என்கிறார்.
அதில் சோசியர் குழந்தை பெறப்போகும் தாயிடம்
"திருவாதிரை நட்சத்திரம் முக்கால் பாகத்தில்
உதிக்கப்போகும் குழந்தை உறுதியாக ஆண்தான்"
என்றும், குழந்தையை எதிர்நோக்கும் தந்தையிடம்,
"குரு பார்வை இருக்கிறது, உன் மனைவி
உறுதியாகப் பெண் பெறுவாள்" என்றும்
சொல்லிவைப்பார். குழந்தை பிறந்தபின்,
ஆணாகில் அம்மாவிடமும், பெண்ணாகில்
தந்தையிடமும் காசு பெறுவார்!! சுமார் கி. பி. 1075-ல்
இiப்படித்தான் சோசியம் என்றால், iஇப்போது
கேட்க வேண்டுமா?
- எண்ணாதே,
"ஆதிரையின் முக்கால் உதிக்கின்றது ஆண்பெறுதி;
பீதக நோக்கு உண்டு பெறுவாளும் பெண்" என்று
சோதிடங்கள் மெய்போலச் சொல்லுவார் சொல்லுவதும்
மாந்தரின் பல தொழில்கள் பற்றிச்
செயங்கொண்டார் நகையுறப் பாடுவதைக்
கண்ணி 138-160ல் கண்டு களிக்க வேண்டுகிறேன்.
விழுப்பரையன் மடல் உள்ள சுட்டி:
http://www.tamil.net/projectmadurai/pub/pm0060/valamatal.pdf
அன்புடன்,
நா. கணேசன்
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ஆணுக்கு ஆடிப் பாவை உவமை:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/message/12998
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/message/13006
காராணை விழுப்பரையன் மடல் குறித்து நான் எழுதிய
குறிப்புகள்:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/message/11409
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/message/11309
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/message/11287
டாக்டர் கல்யாணசுந்தரம் இம்மடல் வெளியீடு பற்றி அறிவித்தது:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/message/4522
நா. க.
--- In agathiyar@y..., "indianmsian"
> --- In Indian-Malaysian@y..., Indian Msian
> Sunday, December 16, 2001
> Boy or girl? Let me foretell baby's sex
> By GEORGE K. CHACKO
> ON the one hand, it is very easy to foretell the sex of a baby it
> will be a boy or a girl (excluding multiple births).
> On the other hand, it is very difficult to foretell the sex of the
> baby.
> The enabling technology of sonograms has made it possible to tell
> (not foretell) the sex of the baby, provided the baby is willing to
> cooperate with the machine and tilt himself or herself to allow the
> world to take a peek at one's very private domain.
> Growing up in India, I heard of the village carpenter who would
> foretell the baby's sex with astonishing accuracy.
> He would write the sex of the baby on a piece of paper and put it up
> somewhere on the central wooden beam running across the house. When
> the baby is born, he would be summoned, and voila! He would pull out
> the piece of paper with the correct sex!
> Unbeknown to the family, he would write not one forecast, but two,
> and secretly put the second piece out of sight of the family. This
> time, he forgot, and his fantastic foretelling came to an ignoble
> end.
> Fast-forward from the ancient Indian fable to the modern life in
> Metropolitan Washington DC.
> In 1957, I knew (don't ask me how) that we would have first a boy and
> then a girl, and announced to my Chinese bride Yo Yee the unalterable
> order of things to come. So on our honeymoon, I got to choose the
> boy's name and Yo picked the girl's name only one each.
> I did not foretell that we would have only two children. But 44 years
> later, we have one son and one daughter.
> I wanted a name that would be unmistakably recognised as Indian:
> Rajah. But during the first decade of India's independence, no one
> could use the title Rajah except those who earned the right by birth.
> Therefore, people would fudge and call their kids Rajen, Rajan or
> Rajani.
> Very thoughtfully, the Indian legislature decided not to recognise
> the title just in time for me to choose in 1957 Rajah as my unborn
> son's name.
> My bride had a tougher time. She wanted a name reflecting the union
> of India and China, but what kind of a name is Indo-China for a girl?
> We expanded our geographical horizons and recognised the continent of
> which both India and China are integral parts: Asia, which is (the
> land of the) dawn. Adding an "h" to make it feminine, my wife chose
> the name Ashia.
> I had no idea of my God-given prescience until in 1962, C.M.
> Matthews, a close friend from Calcutta, visited me in New York. He
> said: "Do you remember what you said in 1952?"
> Although I had not even a clue in 1952 that I would ever be leaving
> India, I had said that I would get married in five years. Actual
> date: Aug 10, 1957.
> "Yes, but you also said `I will have my first son before 1960'," added
> Matthews.
> That I forgot. But Rajah was quite obliging to arrive on Nov 2, 1959,
> in the nick of time to fulfil my foretelling.
> Fast-forward to 2001.
> Ashia had been married for 11 years. In America, you are never
> supposed to ask your children when they are getting married, and
> certainly not when they are going to have a baby. So Yo was surmising
> that maybe Ashia did not want children.
> "Ashia is expecting!" Yo wrote joyously in her e-mail to me dated
> Sept 16. I told Yo that ever since I got the e-mail, I had the sense
> that it would be a girl. She said she felt so too. About a month
> later, Ashia had her sonogram: It's a girl!
> I had flown home in November to spend Thanksgiving with the family.
> Rajah and Karen had something to tell us: they are expecting!
> On Dec 11, Yo phoned me early in the morning in Malaysia. She said
> that Karen had a sonogram. Guess what? She said. I replied: "Boy."
> She said she had also foretold it correctly.
> Karen told Yo: "You guys should go into the business (of foretelling
> the sex of the baby)!
> There are 94 chances in a 100 against both Yo and I correctly
> foretelling the sex of Ashia and Greg's baby, and Rajah and Karen's
> baby. Karen was not even considering my 100% accuracy in foretelling
> seven years ahead not only the sex of the babies but also their
> correct birth order.
> On Dec 12, Rajah e-mailed: "We had a 3-D ultrasound of baby
> yesterday. You can see him waving to you!"
> Hi, little boy, can you read this? Can you hear us talking about you?
> Never mind, we will keep a laminated copy for you with your name
> highlighted.
> o Dr George K. Chacko, an Indian who is now an American citizen, is
> chairman of the Centre of Excellence in Management of Technology and
> Professor of Management of Technology at Multimedia University,
> Cyberjaya. Married to Nanjing-born author Yo Yee, he provides a
> window for the West in the East, and vice-versa. E-mail:
> george.chacko@m...)
>
