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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:51:30 +0100
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Subject: Re: [CTamil] Akattiyan myth in Tamil
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At 00:27 26/01/02 +0000, naga_ganesan@... wrote:

>[.............]
> Undoubtedly there were Bauddha and Jaina competitions with
>Saiva claims: Buddhists claim Avalokita taught Tamil to Agastya
>at Potiyil/Malaya (Cf. ViiracOziyam grammar), just as Saiva legends
>claim that it is Siva who taught Tamil to Agastya
>at Potiyil. Potiyil-Malaya, is refered to
>in gaNDavyUha sUtram as Potalaka and Huan Tsang
>in the 7th century confirms Malaya-Potiyil
>as Potalaka where Avalokita(Kuan-yin) resides.
>Around the same time, in this Tamil mileau, the Sanskrit
>legends about PaaNini being taught by Shiva was also born.

Dear list members,

As a contribution to this thread,
let me quote the end of the abstract
of a lecture that prof. Madhav M. Deshpande
(university of Michigan)
gave at a conference in Paris,
when we had invited him in 1995:

"[...] pANini had not deified (or rather muni-fied)
"the grammarians who are cited in his grammar.
"Similarly, pANini himself was not muni-fied
"by kAtyAyana and pataJjali. However
"they ascribe some special respect for him,
"and treat his grammar as being like the Vedas,
"[...]. It is in bhartr.hari's works (500 A.D.)
"that we see the first signs of muni-fication
"of the early grammarians and a feeling
"that contemporary scholars do not have
"a native command of Sanskrit. In kaiyaTa,
"we have the full statement of authority
"of the three early grammarians, with indications
"of pataJjali being considered an incarnation
"of the snake divinity zeSa.
"In the works of nAgezabhaTTa,
"we have the full development
"of these conceptions, with the inspiration
"for the grammar of pANini being attributed
"to Shiva and his grammar acquiring
"the status of Veda."

[The title of the talk was:
"Evolution of the Notion of Authority (prAmANya) in the Paninian Tradition";
and it was later published in one the 1998 issues
of the journal _Histoire, Epistemologie, Langage_ (Tome XX, Fasc. 1), ISSN
0750-8069
See: ]

Regards

-- Jean-Luc CHEVILLARD (Paris)

P.S. I crosspost this to the Agathiar list,
as the original post was sent both to CTamil and to Agathiar lists.
I apologize for any inconvenience.



>Regards,
>N. Ganesan
>
>PS: the mention of pUtapurANam (bhUtapurANa) and mApurANam (< mahApurANa)
>occurs at the end of 1st millennium AD., If at all they
>existed, they need not be of hoary antiquity.