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From: "Bala Pillai"
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Anbulla Thamil Innaiyargale,
Below FYI. From time immemorial, courageous truth-seeking is Tamilness. In
our conscience, ethos and history, Tamils have the formulae not only to do
it for ourselves, but to cooperate with the rest of Mankind in sharing this
wisdom with all. Here's an example of what one Tamil, Bala Pillai is up to,
in this regard in Malaysia. Diplomacy is war by other means. The best
defence is offence.
Join Thamil Innaiya Erumbugal http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/erumbugal if
**doing** and courageous truth-seekingthis thrills you.
anbudan../bala
bala@...
Founder, Thamil Innaiyam (since 1995)
http://www.tamil.net/newtamil
sydney, australia
----- Original Message -----
From: hajinoh
To: Bala Pillai
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: Update: Islamic Clarity Interaction Series
> Dear Bala, much clearer now. The situation for Islam all over the world is
> grim indeed, and Allah is bound to be most displeased with us. There are
two
> main blocks here in Malaysia who talk about an Islamic state, both are
based
> on harassment. One sticks to ISA, the other one to Hudud. We shall
probably
> leave them for the time being and try to identify those who have found
> beauty in Islam. It is important to identify a nucleus which is prepared
to
> respect different opinions in a positive way. It is insufficient just to
say
> as in Sura Kafirun: lakum dinukum wa liya din. To you your way and to me
> mine. But it is an enormous uphill battle. I doubt that we can make peace
> with eachother without first making peace with Allah. I must admit that I
> have not been attentive for some weeks and all earlier messages are
deleted.
> I appreciate your sense of urgency. Time seems to be running out.
> Wassalam Noh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bala Pillai
> To: hajinoh
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, 27 January, 2002 22:38
> Subject: Re: Update: Islamic Clarity Interaction Series
>
>
> > Dear Haji Noh,
> >
> > Thank you for engaging.
> >
> > I trust you have been following the exchanges over the last 6 weeks on
the
> > need for clarity on the different Islamic camps in Malaysia. How many
> > schools of thought there are; what their exact positions are; which
areas
> > the camps agree upon; which areas they disagree upon; ways of providing
> > prominence to the areas they agree upon (rather than the differences, as
> is
> > the case now); ways of having the camps to be more amicable with each
> other
> > (i.e. mature "agreements to disagree") instead of mud-slinging.
> >
> > The current vague mess and the millions of man-hours of arguments it
> spawns,
> > affects both Muslims and non-Muslims in Malaysia. It eats up valuable
> > billable time, that would be better spent on other more fruitful
> endeavours,
> > spiritual, societal or otherwise.
> >
> > Is this clear? If not what of it is clear and what of it is not clear?
> >
> > cheers../bala
> > bala@...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: hajinoh
> > To: Bala Pillai
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: Update: Islamic Clarity Interaction Series
> >
> >
> > > Well, I hope somebody know what you are talking about. Noh
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bala Pillai
> > > To: Kassim Ahmad
> > > Cc:
> > >
> >
> > > Sent: Sunday, 27 January, 2002 08:39
> > > Subject: Update: Islamic Clarity Interaction Series
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Kassim/Sangkancilers
> > > >
> > > > Update: Islamic Clarity Interaction Series
> > > > _________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Some good news and some bad news. Good news is that enough
> Sangkancilers
> > > and
> > > > others believe that this is a noble and applaudable effort. Good
news
> is
> > I
> > > > have a clear idea on how to move it to amicable resolution.
> > > >
> > > > Bad news is despite my attempts, I have not been able to find even
one
> > > more
> > > > Sankanciler, who is willing to put his energy into assisting me in
> > making
> > > it
> > > > happen. Their main reason, which I ardently disagree with, is that
it
> is
> > > > impossible. Reason: Difference in exposure to the 1001 ways of amity
> and
> > > > consensus building between their and my mind -- I get the greatest
> > > > satisfaction in making the impossible, possible and find less trying
> > > > endeavours mundane.
> > > >
> > > > I will keep trying to amass the resources to organise this. And keep
> > > > Sangkancil including you, updated on my journey progress. In my
mind,
> it
> > > is
> > > > a matter of "when" not "if".
> > > >
> > > > (I will be shortly leaving for a trip to Tamilnadu, India to
coalesce
> > > > champions for a Tamildom networked cooperative -- see
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erumbugal> , a parallel to the
> > Malaysia.Net
> > > > networked cooperative, so will have less "billable" [1] time to
> dedicate
> > > to
> > > > this speeding up the organising of this Series)
> > > >
> > > > If you know of doers who are willing to *do* or *risk* for this
cause,
> > > > please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > My apologies for raising your expectations too much.
> > > >
> > > > cheers../bala
> > > > bala@...
> > > >
> > > > [1] I have started referring to time as "billable time" to enable
more
> > > > Sangkancilers to comprehend the paramount value of trustworthy
> committed
> > > > learning networkable trained minds. Without the adjective
"billable",
> > > other
> > > > people's time is seen by most still as agricultural age time, and is
> > taken
> > > > for granted. Latter mindset has dire trickle-down consequences.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
