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Subject: Re: [agathiyar] vaLLuvar's kavari mA (was: Re: (fwd) A posting on hair)
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>--- In agathiyar@y..., jaybee wrote
>>
>>
>> கவரி என்பது ஈயோட்டுவதற்காக உள்ள கருவி.
>> Fly whisk என்னும் இது பண்டைய எகிப்திய ஃபேரோ
>> இந்தியர்கள் பயன்படுத்திய கவரி மயிரை யாக் எருமையிலிருந்து
>> எடுத்துக்கொண்டார்கள்.

>>
At 04:15 PM 4/10/02 +0000, Dr.Ganesan wrote:
>
>Thanks for your mail.
>
>Prof. Abdul Rahman is most likely right when he says that
>VaLLuvar's "uyir nIppin2 vAzAk kavari mA" ("In case the yak loses
>its woolen coat, it will die (in the bitter cold)"
>refers to the yak (Tibetan bison).


No two thoughts about that.
It was the Tibetan Yak. Kavari MA is the common name
given to the Tibetan Yak.

Regards

JayBee

>
>Like Sankara going to the banks of the river Ganga to study the vedas,
>and Ambedkar attending Columbia univ., NY, our great
>VaLLuvar could have studied in the North. Or, definitely
>at least from (Northern?) experts of Sanskrit. After all,
>TirukkuRaL is the first work emphasizing Northern ideals,
>a definite break from sangam tradition incorporating
>Sanskrit dharmasastrams and Sanskrit vocabulary to
>a large extent. The eclectic VaLLuvar, a priest among
>bards and drummers must have mingled with Caakkaiyar.
>The name, Caakkaiyar, the traditional performers of Sanskrit
>drama in Kerala temples, comes from cAkrika.
>
>On other cAkrika bards of S. India,
>http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102&L=indology&P=R5963
>http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102&L=indology&P=R12832
>http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102&L=indology&P=R6119
>
>Great tamil scholars such as Viiramaamuni, Caldwell, Pope
>on vaLLuvar:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam/message/9498
>
>The late vaLLuvamAlai (spurious) done several centuries after kuRaL,
>This spurious text claims as tho' sangam poets were
>present for praising vaLLuvar's work.
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam/message/9524
>
>Problems of acceptance if dalit is an eminent poet:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam/message/9471
>
>Regards,
>N. Ganesan
>
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