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Subject: vaLLuvar's kavari mA (was: Re: (fwd) A posting on hair)
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At 04:15 PM 4/10/02 +0000, Dr.Ganesan wrote:
> >Prof. Abdul Rahman is most likely right when he says that
> >VaLLuvar's "uyir nIppin2 vAzAk kavari mA" ("In case the yak loses
> >its woolen coat, it will die (in the bitter cold)"
> >refers to the yak (Tibetan bison).
>
--- In agathiyar@y..., jaybee wrote:

> No two thoughts about that.
> It was the Tibetan Yak. Kavari MA is the common name
> given to the Tibetan Yak.
>

Thanks again, Dr. Jaybee! Is there any written ref.
from 20th century or earlier about this kuRaL.
Ie., "kavari maa" refering to the Tibetan Yak?

anbuDan,
N. Ganesan

PS: 1) Hope the learned list and Dr. JayBee come
and join the new CTamil (Classical Tamil) list
created at the Paris University. See the discussions:
http://www.services.cnrs.fr/wws/arc/ctamil/2002-04/mail1.html

Everyone is welcome, pl. do share your insights
and knowledge about classical Tamil.

2) Apologies for not being clear enough. I know that
Nambudiris are not refered to in KaaLamEkam veNpA.
Just wrote that Nambutiris and Choziya BrahmaNas
have/had munkuDumi. -NG

>
> >
> >Like Sankara going to the banks of the river Ganga to study the vedas,
> >and Ambedkar attending Columbia univ., NY, our great
> >VaLLuvar could have studied in the North. Or, definitely
> >at least from (Northern?) experts of Sanskrit. After all,
> >TirukkuRaL is the first work emphasizing Northern ideals,
> >a definite break from sangam tradition incorporating
> >Sanskrit dharmasastrams and Sanskrit vocabulary to
> >a large extent. The eclectic VaLLuvar, a priest among
> >bards and drummers must have mingled with Caakkaiyar.
> >The name, Caakkaiyar, the traditional performers of Sanskrit
> >drama in Kerala temples, comes from cAkrika.
> >
> >On other cAkrika bards of S. India,
> >http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102&L=indology&P=R5963
> >http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102&L=indology&P=R12832
> >http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102&L=indology&P=R6119
> >
> >Great tamil scholars such as Viiramaamuni, Caldwell, Pope
> >on vaLLuvar:
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam/message/9498
> >
> >The late vaLLuvamAlai (spurious) done several centuries after kuRaL,
> >This spurious text claims as tho' sangam poets were
> >present for praising vaLLuvar's work.
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam/message/9524
> >
> >Problems of acceptance if dalit is an eminent poet:
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam/message/9471
> >
> >Regards,
> >N. Ganesan
> >
> ==============>