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Subject: PEyk kuRaL - Re: Sleight of hand,Sorcar and his Mysteries - Re: Run away again - Re: The Run-away Rope trick -Re: [agathiyar] Rope Trick
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--- In agathiyar@y..., "naga_ganesan"
> > It's interesting that ANTAL (Perialvar?)
> > uses "thIk kuRaL". We have to insert "ai"
> > and say that this's lost due to metrics. If kuRaLai is meant,
> > the author could use an equivalent but different word.
> >
> > Note that it's not myself saying "thIk kuRaL"
> > coluld refer to VaLLuvan's text.
> > Kanchi Periyavar, among other traditional scholars,
> > have spoken that this refers to KuRaL too.
> > Since Jaina ideas are found, and Jains praise
> > KuRaL as "em Oththu" (our own veda), perhaps
> > ANTAL has kuRaL as well in mind - taking a
> > chide at a heterodox product.
> >
> > Regards,
> > N. Ganesan
>
P. Chandra wrote:
> பாடபேதங்கள் என்ன சொல்கின்றன?
> காஞ்சியடிகளார் சொல்வதெல்லாம் இன்றைய நிகழ்ச்சி.
> காஞ்சி மடத்தின் வரலாறே ததிங்கிணத்தோம் என்பது தெரிந்ததே.
>
> எனவே அதை நாம் பெரிதாகக்கருதமுடியாது.
>
> திருக்குறளை வைணவர்கள் அவ்வாறு சொல்வதாயிருந்தால் சிலம்பை ஒதுக்கிய
> பின்னிடைக்காலச் சிவாச்சாரியார்ஒருவரின் (கச்சியப்பர்?) நிரலில் திருக்குறளும் இருந்ததா?
>
ANTAL (Perialvar?) could have easily used kuRaLai,
if she wants to use and, could have easily overcome
any metrical problem in numerous ways. So
metrics alone "thaLai thaTTal" is not the constraint
for the great poet. The thing is only "kuRaL" is
found. We have to insert ("varuviththu") "ai" to
kuRaL and tell the meaning.
Your question is an interesting one. Most of my
TirukkuRaL books are with Sri. Al. Rammohan when he
did the major Tirukkural project for several years now.
Will get them someday and see. But, my memory is
TirukkuRaL like other 18 kIz-k-kaNakku works
is bracketed as Jaina by some Saiva authors.
As you know, kuRaL first quoted in MaNimEkalai
another heterodox religion (this time Buddhism,
remember Ambedkar opted for Buddhism).
In sum, there must be 100 ways in which ANTAL
could use kuRaLai in her TiruppAvai and still
satisfy all metrics rules. Why "thIk kuRaL"
is an interesting question. Have to see
all articles on this - well, some day.
Regards,
N. Ganesan
