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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:59:44 -0000
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Subject: Re: ThirumuRai Series - 117
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--- In agathiyar@y..., Subramanian Ganesh wrote:
> Dear Thiru. Ganesan,
> Thank you for that nice collection of pronunciation
> guidelines. For concistancy as well as for the purpose
> of using the tools to convert the text to tamil font
> characters "ch" is used even in places where it would
> sound as "s".
>
For a standard transliteration, we can use some variant
from MTL (Madras Tamil Lexicon) scheme. That will be
some thing like:
a A i I u U e E ai o O au (uyir)
k G c J T N t n p m y r l v z L R n2 (mey)
--------
The problem that we face in your transliteration is
it's a mixture: For example, a) -TT- is used in "mATTai"
but -D- in "pEchiDum" b) "th" and "dh" is used for
reading/singing the poems loud.
However, there is inconsistency in the letter, ch.
By using "ch" throughout, people get confused
how to say it.
To retain consistency, the pair "ch" (eg., word-initial
positions) and "s" (while intervocalically) can be
used.
Hence, my original mail.
Regards,
N. Ganesan
the "ch" in between vowels
confuses folks to pronounce.
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> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:58:35 -0000
> From: "naga_ganesan" > Subject: Re: ThirumuRai Series - 117
>
> --- In agathiyar@y..., Subramanian Ganesh > wrote:
> > thirun^Avukkarachar thEvAram
>
> அன்பு நண்பர் சுப்ரமண்யன் கணேஷ்,
>
> வணக்கம்.
>
> இரண்டு உயிர் எழுத்துக்கு இடையே, சகரமெய் (=ச்) பயிலும்போது,
> அதன் ஓசை மெலிந்து s என்று ஒலிக்கும்.
>
> உதாரணமாக, அரசர் என்பதை arasar என்று எழுதிடவேண்டும்.
> அசுரர் = asurar
> மசக்கை = masakkai
> பசித்துப் புசி = pasiththup pusi
>
> ஏனை எழுத்துக்கள் திருத்தமாக உள. முக்கியமாக, ககரமெய்(=க்)
> h ஓசை இரு உயிருக்கு இடையில் வரும். அதனை, நீங்கள் k என்று
> எழுதுதலைக் காண இன்புறுகிறேன்.
>
>
> > thalam kATTuppaLLi
> > thirukkuRun^thokai
> > ain^dhAm thirumuRai
> >
> > thiruchchiRRambalam
> >
> > mATTaith thEDi makizn^dhu n^Ir n^ummuLE
> > n^ATTup poyyelAm pEchiDum n^ANilIr
>
> pEchiDum என்பது pEsiDum என்றிருக்கவேண்டும்.
>
> நேரம் கிடைக்கும்போது பாருங்கள்:
> http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9803&L=indology&P=R6044
>
>
> > kUTTai viTTuyir pOvadhan munnamE
> > kATTup paLLi uLAn kazal chErminE
> >
> > thiruchchiRRambalam
> >
> > Meaning:
> > In the pursuit of wealth, oh shameless, who
> > tell to yourselves all sorts of crude lies !
> > Before the soul leaves the shell, reach out
> > to the Ornated Feet of the Lord of
> > thirukkATTuppaLLi.
> >
> > Notes:
> > 1. mADu - wealth; n^AN (al) - shame; kUDu -
> > nest/shell.
> >
> >
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> உங்கள் பணி வெல்வதாகுக. சைவமும் தமிழும் தழைக்க
> நீங்கள் செய்யும் தொண்டைப் பணிகிறேன்.
>
> அன்புடன்,
> நா. கணேசன்
>
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