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To: "Tenkasi Viswanathan" , Cc: , , , References: Subject: Re: [tamil] Bill Gates & Tamil
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 16:05:08 +0530
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From: "Bala Pillai" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1292804
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Tenkasi,
Please, let us stick to the point.
I am not a great fan of Bill Gates, either. (1) That is besides the point
and (2) We have to give credit where credit is due, irrespective of whether
one is a friend, foe or in between.
The contention again is:-
"Bill Gates, on his path to billions has done more*
for the English language, than any Tamil has for
the Tamil language this century"
Do you more agree or more disagree with this statement?
* whether he intended to or not
In being balanced, before one arrives at a judgely assessment, one *has to*
canvas these LARGE derivative points:-
* why many Tamils and many non-Anglophones, are writing emails in
English, not in their native language
* what types of jobs Tamils from TN are leaving in droves for -- i.e. why
are the Finns, percentage-wise, not leaving Finland anywhere near the TNites
leaving TN. How much is it a direct or consequential effect of the PC
revolution.
* why are there astronomical growth in English language matriculation
school in TN -- is it because they want to be Tamil (yes, Tamil - no error)
teachers? Or more likely because they want to work for Bill Gates or
"downline"/consequential jobs trail?
* at the margin (new jobs created in the last 10 years), in TN, how
significant numberwise are the jobs that are a direct or consquential result
of the PC/IT/telecommunications revolution that Bill Gates is significantly
responsible for? Examples -- software, bodyshop, IT/telco training/sales.
* why is the Tamils world, compared to the Finns say, abysmal at job
creation? Why is Bill Gates so great at job creation?
* how high-ranking is job-creation to the well-being of a society (aka as
culture)? Eg compared to putting posters on walls
anpudan../bala
bala@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Tenkasi Viswanathan To: ; ; Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [tamil] Bill Gates & TamilL: I vote for the Peacock!
>
> VaNakkam Thiru Bala.
>
> I must respectfully disagree with you. Bill Gates has produced
machine-based
> progress. The result is not encouraging. English-speaking children today
are
> losing more and more verbal skills, thanks to Bill Gates and computers.
Also
> the American economy is consumption oriented. Because of this, schools
have
> been forced to import computer technology in the classroom. Children do
not
> learn basic skills through computers. Basic skills involve speaking,
> reading, writing and arithmetic. Not programming languages and games.
>
> These skills can be taught only by humans who love doing so. Not every one
> can love teaching basic skills. A program that is made to teach basic
skills
> is ill conceived. It works in the sense that it runs, it is like "KAna
> MayilAdak Kandirundha VAnKozi"! The VAnKOzi also dances just as the
compute
> program runs. Well Bala, do you know children who have learnt dancing from
> VAnKOzi and can dance like the Peacock?
>
> Soon the US has to export Indian Programmers back to India and import
> teachers to teach basic skills. Well, programmers, get ready and get a
> teaching certificate.
>
> This is not so bad as losing verbal skills. Children are unable to express
> themselves in an articulate manner as you do, Bala. And I can firmly
affirm
> that you did not learn basic skills through a computer. ! :-) Childern are
> more and more using foul language.
>
> Add to this the woes of the English language about which Mahatma Gandhi
used
> to complain. Spelling is such a head ache! And the marvelous software that
> Bill Gates has been promoting makes sure that children write sentences,
> which are correct spellingwise but are fun to read. Thanks, Bill, for
giving
> teachers so much fun. They deserve it. Here is an example I can recall:
>
> On do go to school every day an I eat their also.
>
> {One does go to school every day and eats there also.}
>
> One of my colleagues has compiled a marvelous fun-reading. I have to dig
it
> out sometime to send it to Tamilnet.
>
> Learning is a personal experience where human interaction is necessary for
> feeling the personal nature. This personal element is being sacrificed
> thanks to Bill gates and others. People are becoming more and more like
> robots -- routine. The Courts are in danger of losing the human element.
>
> Younger Americans are becoming more and more uncivil in public.
>
> Considering Thamiz, people on the net will agree that Bill gates can come
no
> where near BhArathiyAr. And BhArathi lived only 39 years or so. He brought
> life into Thamiz and did not even make it prose-like, let alone the
> machine-orientation. The greatness of man lies in poetry not in machines.
We
> need machines as we are the greatest machines produced by God. We need to
> imitate that model and produce machines which will reflect man's love for
> God as reflected in poetry. Absent such a venture in Bill gates' model, I
do
> not think he deserves my vote. I vote for our BhArathiyAr.
>
> Vandhanam.
>
> Visu
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Bala Pillai" > >To: , > >Subject: [tamil] Bill Gates & Tamil
> >Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:09:58 +0530
> >
> >Anbulla Thamil Innaiya Nanbargale,
> >
> > "Bill Gates, on his path to billions has done more*
> > for the English language, than any Tamil has for
> > the Tamil language this century"
> >
> >Do you more agree or more disagree with this statement?
> >
> >* whether he intended to or not
> >
> >anpudan../bala
> >bala@...
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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