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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 07:25:38 +0800
Subject: Re: [agathiyar] Re: Temple in TN cures mania
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Dear Vijinuk,
Your letter is though-provoking.
I have a few experiences. I don't know whether to
tell them so publicly or not because they are very personal.
Perhaps if those experiences were experiences of
other people, would I write about them or not? Perhaps I
would. From a point of interest and also information.
Let me get an answer to my own questions before I
pen my input.
Regards
JayBee
At 08:39 AM 7/8/02 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In agathiyar@y..., "Bala Pillai"
>> Jairam & Friends,
>>
>> Not making a value judgment here. Just stating what I find to be
>true again and again.
>>
>> Below is mainly (a) the placebo effect at work and secondarily
>
>
>Dear Bala
>
>You are making a vast oversimplification by calling it placebo
>effect. Both pschiatric problems and cures are culture specific. For
>example, hysteria which was taken up by Sigmund Freud was very
>prevalent in the sexually repressive Vienna where he lived. Hence
>Freud's methods concentrated on sexual repression and derepression.
>Each psyciatric method is effective only for a certain range of
>pschiatric disorders. Most forms of treatment have been inefective
>against schizophrenia, that is why pharmocological methods are
>developed against schizophrenia and it has been effecive to a certain
>extent, but not all the time
>
>As to why a patient chooses certain type of treatment and what are
>the dynamics of treatment is a complex subject and still no one has
>definite answers. At the least, the patient has to trust the "doctor"
>and what is called transference has to take place. That is, the
>patient transfers all the psychic energy on the doctor and is
>receptive to ideas from him/her. From there, both the treatment and
>the eventual cure, if there is one, proceed.
>
>Each society has it's owm major pschiatric problems. A person brought
>up in a tribal society will have his own problems and he may not be
>cured by a member of American asociation of Psychologists. I put the
>doctor is quote-unquote because the doctor may be a witch doctor
>getting into a trance after dancing for 2 hours or he may have a
>number of degrees attached to his name and siting behind a large
>mohogany table or may be a temple priest in Tamilnadu chanting Rudram
>or some other verses in Sanskrit or other languages. A tribal who is
>bothered by malevolent spirits may be cured by his witch doctor who
>beats him on his knee with a broom dipped in cock's blood. Why do you
>call it a placebo effect when other western methods may be a complete
>failure on this tribal.
>
>There are other factors like how do you define the state of cure and
>who is to finance the treatment. many of the western escpecially
>Fruedian methods were time consuming and money consuming processes.
>Pschiatrists don't work for nothing and they are highly paid. Who is
>going to finance a man in India suffering from psycho-somatic
>problems? Are the "rationalists" who think temple cure is placebo
>going to finance his cure and spend few thousand dollars out of their
>pocket. If a man in India believes that going to a temple and doing
>the trances required there cures him of his sickness and it really
>happens and he is back to his work leading a productive work, what
>more you want?
>
>
>In pschiatric curing, as in other walks of life, we must follow what
>works.
>
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